In the fifth and last part of the interview, Tom Decorte (professor of criminology and director of the Institute for Social Drug research at Ghent University) addresses drug use on a more personal note. He shares various of his observations on hypocrisy, stigma, taboos, and the conservatism of institutions around this topic. Finally, he looks back on the reasons that led him to work on the subject of drugs and create the organisation Smart on Drugs in 2018.